Gloria Hayes Richardson oral history interview conducted by Joseph Mosnier in New York, New York, 2011-07-19.
GR: If I’ve said before, that’s probably what it is, but I can’t -
GR: I remember where I was sitting in my uncle’s house, sitting on a step with the telephone. It was something we were either getting ready to do or - [sighs].
JM: They wanted to put a lid on Cambridge, huh?
GR: Oh, yeah, no. And it probably would have been - I think it probably would have been more people shot and killed if that, uh - why can’t I remember his first name - if the Tawes guy - he was really, um, Gelston’s boss. Gelston was Adjutant General, and he was General. If he had been there over the Guard through all that time, I think things may have been messier.
JM: Yeah, yeah. On balance, Gelston kind of managed to keep things -
GR: Yes. I think, um - I remember when I first saw him. I was with, uh, [Phil] Savage and, um, [1:20:00] [Stanley] Branch at the City Council having a meeting. And he just walked in and sat down. Of course, Savage and Branch jumped up and down, “Who is this man? He has no business being here.” Instead of Gelston getting upset or insulted, he just said, “Fine, I’ll leave.” And I thought, “Oh! He must have a lot of power with somebody,” because he didn’t do the ordinary thing, “What do you mean? I’m staying!” And it proved that he did.
JM: Yeah, yeah. You mentioned earlier in the interview that, um, I think you mentioned - was it Branch or Savage was later determined to have been an FBI informant?
JM: Yeah. What can you tell me about Branch?
GR: Parren Mitchell’s papers must have that. He - well, Branch, when the Swarthmore kids came into Cambridge with the kids from the other colleges, Branch had some kind of civil rights organization, and they had been from Swarthmore back in Chester [Pennsylvania]. And then - well, I was really stupid, because I think he had been a detective in a store. But anyhow, he started coming in and out of Cambridge, and he was connected also with the NAACP. But he was really in and out of everything, and when they - actually, the people that told me about it were those, were the anti-war - oh, now I can’t think of their names. They broke into the Media, Pennsylvania, FBI office. Priests and nuns, the brothers - I can’t think of their names.
JM: That’s okay.
GR: Right at the moment.