Manuscripts/Mixed Material Interview with Lesley Dorman
DORMAN: This is exactly what I was doing, and whatever one does in this life, I believe it should be considered teamwork. One may be the power behind the throne, so to speak, but basically, you can't do it on your own. Nothing is ever done alone. Yes, most of the stuff came from actually Barotse province. That is where most of the crafts are made. I have a gorgeous giraffe in my home which I got down in Livingston. It was made from one piece of Mukwe wood by a Barotse. And we had giraffes, too, other giraffes, at the craft shop, lots of wood carving, beautiful, beautiful work, lovely work.
There was something, though, that I was sorry about. I can understand it, but regretted it. Just before I left, I was asked by the minister of information — because the craft shop had become so successful and because they were building this new airport, which I've never seen, lots of copper, I believe — that there should be a craft shop at the airport. Unfortunately, the women were not eager to do it by themselves unless someone like myself, I assume, would be there in case something went wrong. And I can understand that, but it was a pity.
Q: These women were timid, I suppose. They're not used to being administrators?
DORMAN: Some of these women were. They were very administrative conscious, because they were originally from South Africa. Rachel Kalulu, Daphne Kinoso, Pauline Nalumango - most of their husbands were ministers.
Q: Then why were they afraid?
DORMAN: I don't know. I think it's a responsibility to undertake something new.
Q: Was it a cultural thing?
DORMAN: That may be true, a little bit ingrained.
Q: We found they leaned heavily on American and British women in Pakistan and Afghanistan. The women there were a little timid to take responsibility, and I couldn't figure it out, except in their culture, they were a little held down.