Manuscripts/Mixed Material Interview with Douglas G. Hartley
HARTLEY: Personally, I don't think that I was aware of this. I think where it became more obvious was the next stage—those who had passed the exam and their placement within the Foreign Service—whether they were going to get a political job or a economic or consular job. I understand that in those cases, there were pressures to place some of the minorities into some more high-profile political jobs and that sort of thing. But as I think I mentioned, I did not see any particular pressure. I don't think I was at all subjective about that, either. I treated them all the same, as far as I could see. I didn't kowtow to the fact that someone was black or whatever. I don't think that's the system. As far as I'm concerned, you should be as objective as possible. The only time I felt I had been leaned on was when, going through the case files, there was one applicant who had worked and written for some fiercely partisan magazines, he was a political activist (pro-Arab). I remember I brought that to the attention of one of the more senior types with a recommendation that the file be carefully reviewed. I never heard what happened about that.
Q: Well, Doug, just to sort of finish this up, what did you do after you left and retired from the Foreign Service?