Manuscripts/Mixed Material Interview with Joseph J. Sisco
Courtesy of the National Archives and Records Service, Lyndon Baines Johnson Library
The Association for Diplomatic Studies and Training Foreign Affairs Oral History Project
UNDER SECRETARY JOSEPH J. SISCO
Interviewed by: Paige E. Mulhollan
Initial interview date: November 6, 1971
Q: You were during the Johnson Administration first, deputy assistant secretary for International Organization Affairs, and then in 1965 made assistant secretary, where you finished out that administration.
SISCO: That is correct.
Q: Of course, you have been in NEA [Near Eastern and South Asian Affairs] since then with the Nixon Administration.
Q: When was the first time that you made any personal acquaintance with Mr. Johnson Remember that far back?
SISCO: Sure. In many ways, I think this is going to prove about the only real contribution that I can make to this oral history, because I had not known President Johnson at all.
Q: That's a good way to start.
SISCO: I was told on one of those days by Secretary Rusk that he had recommended me to President Johnson to become assistant secretary for International Organization Affairs, taking the place of the then-incumbent.
Q: Harlan Cleveland.
SISCO: Harlan Cleveland, yes. I was called to Secretary Rusk's office and told this, and he said that since President Johnson did not know me—