Manuscripts/Mixed Material Interview with Hans N. Tuch
TUCH: He, of course, is one of my four, so to speak, godfathers—ideals—as far as people that I've worked for. Just to mention the other three, being Edward R. Murrow, John Crimmins, and Arthur Burns. But he was really my first boss, with whom, as a relatively junior officer, when I was 34 years old when I got to Moscow, and I was a relatively junior officer. But you had in Moscow at that time, it was an ideal, from my point of view, an ideal American embassy. You had no hierarchy, you had no protocol. It was a small embassy. I counted—we had 14 substantive officers in the embassy, other than the military. There were 14 substantive officers, there were 16 military officers, and there were about ten administrative types in the embassy, and that was it.
Q: Was Leo Du Lac there at the time?
TUCH: Yes, he was there. He was the assistant naval attach�.
Q: We've spoken about Leo.
TUCH: He was a great Marine officer, just a great Marine officer, and he did a marvelous job there. We were very good friends.
Q: And also that's the time before the agricultural attach�s and all the other agencies in government.
TUCH: I count the agricultural attach� as part of the 14 substantive officers. But we had, for instance, an ambassador, we had a deputy chief of mission, minister of the embassy. We had no counselors. We had one first secretary, politico-economic, sort of almost like the British system, a chancery head. He was a chancery head. And the rest of us were second secretaries. We were all working stiffs—the political section, the economic section, agricultural section, and the publications procurement officer, one officer who bought books for the whole U.S. Government, who just did nothing but go around Moscow buying books at bookstores. I helped him, because he helped me. His name was Harry Barnes, who's now ambassador to Chile. He and I did share the cultural and press relations work. It was too much to do for one person, so he helped me, and I helped him buy books. But at any rate, it was a very tight, very small, very collegial type of embassy in those days. Everybody knew everybody, and everybody worked for the ambassador and the deputy chief of mission, who was sort of the executive officer, by the name of “Dick” Richard Davis. Not Davies, but Davis.