Audio Recording "I didn't know anything about the little small four-inch pies."

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"I didn't know anything about the little small four-inch pies."
Contributor Names
Ramsey, Edgar (Narrator)
Levitas, Susan, 1961- (Interviewer)
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Subject Headings
-  African Americans
-  Foodways
-  Oral history
-  Interviews
-  Sound recordings
-  Work processes
-  Family-run businesses
-  Food industry
-  Pies
-  Sweet Potato Pie Company (Paterson, N.J.)
-  Ethnography
-  United States -- New Jersey -- Paterson
-  Interview with Edgar Ramsey, owner, Sweet Potato Pie Company.
-  Summary of audio segment: I didn't know anything about the small four-inch pies, so I took a large nine-inch pie and said it was all-natural and made from scratch and maybe you can add it to your menu and he said leave it and call me back. Before I got home several hours later, he had called me and said we like it but can you make it small. I said no and he said if you can, we'd sell it for you. I talked to my wife and said where would we get the tins? I went to a party company and bought four-inch aluminum ash trays; it had the three grooves for the cigarette around the rim; we tried it -- bought fifty. My wife rolled out the dough and pressed it into the tins and we didn't even know how to make dough. We went to bakeries and had them sell us dough since we weren't in competition with them; then we went to another bakery for dough. After it got bigger, I looked for a dough recipe and we started making it; I looked for a manual pie press machine called Dial-O-Matic and that was progress for us because we were making the dough and not rolling it out. Then we went to a hydraulic machine and then to the Comptex. So we've improved each time.
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Call Number/Physical Location
AFC 1995/028: WIP-SL-A020
Source Collection
Working in Paterson Project Collection (AFC 1995/028)
American Folklife Center
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Working in Paterson Project collection, 1993-2002 (AFC 1995/028), American Folklife Center, Library of Congress

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Ramsey, Edgar, and Susan Levitas. "I didn't know anything about the little small four-inch pies.". -08-28, 1994. Audio.

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Ramsey, E. & Levitas, S. (1994) "I didn't know anything about the little small four-inch pies.". -08-28. [Audio] Retrieved from the Library of Congress,

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Ramsey, Edgar, and Susan Levitas. "I didn't know anything about the little small four-inch pies.". -08-28, 1994. Audio. Retrieved from the Library of Congress, <>.