Film, Video Perspectives on the Post-COVID World Order

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  • Perspectives on the Post-COVID World Order


  • Kluge Center Director John Haskell interviewed Hal Brands, Francis J. Gavin and historian Margaret MacMillan in a forward-looking conversation about the next few years. Topics will include the future of U.S. leadership in the world, prospects for competition between the US and China and predictions and advice regarding the Biden administration's first moves. Brands and Gavin are editors of the 2020 book "COVID-19 and World Order: The Future of Conflict, Competition, and Cooperation," which includes an essay by MacMillan, among others by experts in history, economics, public health, and international affairs.

Event Date

  • November 19, 2020


  • -  Margaret MacMillan is the visiting distinguished historian at the Council on Foreign Relations. She is an emeritus professor of international history at Oxford and a professor of history at the University of Toronto. She was provost of Trinity College at the University of Toronto from 2002 to 2007 and warden of St Antony's College, University of Oxford from 2007 to 2017. MacMillan is a member of the Kluge Center Scholars Council. Her latest book, "War: How Conflict Shaped Us" was released in 2020.
  • -  Francis J. Gavin is the Giovanni Agnelli Distinguished Professor and the inaugural director of the Henry A. Kissinger Center for Global Affairs at Johns Hopkins SAIS. In 2013, Gavin was appointed the first Frank Stanton Chair in Nuclear Security Policy Studies and Professor of Political Science at MIT. His book "Nuclear Weapons and American Grand Strategy" was released in 2020.
  • -  Hal Brands is the Henry A. Kissinger Distinguished Professor of Global Affairs at the Johns Hopkins School of Advanced International Studies (SAIS) and resident scholar at the American Enterprise Institute. He is also the Library of Congress Kissinger Chair in Foreign Policy at the Kluge Center. Brands is a columnist for Bloomberg Opinion. His most recent book, "American Grand Strategy in the Age of Trump," was released in 2018.
  • -  John Haskell is director of the John W. Kluge Center

Running Time

  • 34 minutes 39 seconds

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  • video
  • image
  • online text

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