Book/Printed Material The debates in the several state conventions on the adoption of the federal Constitution, as recommended by the general convention at Philadelphia, in 1787. Together with the journal of the Federal convention, Luther Martin's letter, Yate's minutes, Congressional opinions, Virginia and Kentucky resolutions of '98-'99, and other illustrations of the Constitution volume 4
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Also known as Elliot's debates THE DEBATES IN THE SEVERAL STATE CONVENTIONS, ON THE ADOPTION OF THE FEDERAL CONSTITUTION, AS RECOMMENDED BY THE GENERAL CONVENTION AT PHILADELPHIA, IN 1787. TOGETHER WITH THE JOURNAL OF THE FEDERAL CONVENTION,…- Contributor: United States. Constitutional Convention - Elliot, Jonathan - Madison, James
- Date: 1836
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Also known as Elliot's debates Entered according to Act of Congress, in the year one thousand eight hundred and thirty-six, By JONATHAN ELLIOT, In the Clerk's Office of the District Court of the District of Columbia.- Contributor: United States. Constitutional Convention - Elliot, Jonathan - Madison, James
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Also known as Elliot's debates CONTENTS. Page Convention of NORTH CAROLINA, 1 Declaration of Rights, 243 Amendments proposed, 244 The Question on Adoption, 250 SOUTH CAROLINA, (in Legislature,) 253 (in Convention,) 318 The Question on Ratification, 338…- Contributor: United States. Constitutional Convention - Elliot, Jonathan - Madison, James
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Also known as Elliot's debates INDEX. BY SPEAKERS' NAMES. NORTH CAROLINA. Page. ORGANIZATION of the Convention, 1 RULES for the Government of the Convention, Electors, &c, 2 HENRY ABBOTT—Religion; opposed to an exclusive Establishment; no religious Test;…- Contributor: United States. Constitutional Convention - Elliot, Jonathan - Madison, James
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Also known as Elliot's debates v supersede the Laws of particular States, 155. Pine-barren Acts, Paper money; Debts; executing the Laws, 157. Cognizance of Controversies, 159. Federal Laws conflicting with those of the States; Legislation on Individuals…- Contributor: United States. Constitutional Convention - Elliot, Jonathan - Madison, James
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Also known as Elliot's debates vi usurped; Powers intended to be given, legal without new Authority, &c., 179 Paper Money not affected, 185. Relative Importance of the Northern and Southern States, 186 Replies to general Objections 218…- Contributor: United States. Constitutional Convention - Elliot, Jonathan - Madison, James
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Also known as Elliot's debates vii Appointing Power; Presidential Powers, 135 Judiciary; State and Federal Courts separate, 139 Congress, its Powers limited and enumerated, 140 States, their Interests connected; Trial by Jury, 151 Power in the People,…- Contributor: United States. Constitutional Convention - Elliot, Jonathan - Madison, James
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Also known as Elliot's debates viii Mr.JOSEPH TAYLOR—Wording, “We, the People,” an assumed Power, 23 Appointments; Rights parted with 45 Impeachment, does it reach Collectors? 70 Elections, their Control in vague Terms, 70 Electors, Objections to the…- Contributor: United States. Constitutional Convention - Elliot, Jonathan - Madison, James
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Also known as Elliot's debates ix Constitution represents States as well as Governments; three principal Forms of Government considered, 327 CHARLES COTESWORTH PINCKNEY (a Member of the Federal Convention)— Treaties, where to be lodged; President, the Power…- Contributor: United States. Constitutional Convention - Elliot, Jonathan - Madison, James
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Also known as Elliot's debates x ANSWERS OF THE STATES— State of Delaware, 532 State of Rhode Island, 533 Commonwealth of Massachusetts, 533 State of New York 537 State of Connecticut, 538 State of New Hampshire, 538…- Contributor: United States. Constitutional Convention - Elliot, Jonathan - Madison, James
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Also known as Elliot's debates xi EMBARGOES, to regulate and revoke. H. R. May 29, 1794.—Madison, 433 EXPUNGING RESOLUTION. Senate, 1836.—Leigh, 598. Rives, 599 FISHERY, COD. Granting Bounties. H. R. February 3, 1792.—Giles, 426. Williamson, Madison, 427…- Contributor: United States. Constitutional Convention - Elliot, Jonathan - Madison, James
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Also known as Elliot's debates xii Stone, 376 to 378. Madison, 378 to 383. Gerry, 383 to 386 Benson, 386 to 387. Sedgwick, 387 to 388. Lee, 388 to 389 Boudinot, 389 to 391 Gerry, 391 to…- Contributor: United States. Constitutional Convention - Elliot, Jonathan - Madison, James
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Also known as Elliot's debates 1 DEBATES IN THE CONVENTION OF THE STATE OF NORTH CAROLINA, ON THE ADOPTION OF THE FEDERAL CONSTITUTION. At a Convention, begun and held at Hillsborough, the 21st day of July, in…- Contributor: United States. Constitutional Convention - Elliot, Jonathan - Madison, James
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Also known as Elliot's debates 2 “1. When the president assumes the chair, the members shall take their seats. “2. At the opening of the Convention, each day, the minutes of the preceding day shall be read,…- Contributor: United States. Constitutional Convention - Elliot, Jonathan - Madison, James
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Also known as Elliot's debates 3 Croom, Neil Hopkins, Robert White, John Hartsfield, Job Smith, and Frederick Baker, which, being severally read, were referred to the committee of elections. Mr. Cabarrus presented the depositions of Charles Markland,…- Contributor: United States. Constitutional Convention - Elliot, Jonathan - Madison, James
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Also known as Elliot's debates 4 states of Massachusetts and South Carolina; which were ordered to be filed with the Secretary, subject to the perusal of the members Mr. JAMES GALLOWAY moved that the Constitution Should be…- Contributor: United States. Constitutional Convention - Elliot, Jonathan - Madison, James
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Also known as Elliot's debates 5 This is a subject of great consideration. It is a Constitution which has been formed after much deliberation. It has had the sanction of men of the first characters for their…- Contributor: United States. Constitutional Convention - Elliot, Jonathan - Madison, James
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Also known as Elliot's debates 6 should not be elected unless I promised to obey their directions, I should have disdained to serve on such dishonorable terms. Sir, I shall vote perfectly independent, and shall certainly avow…- Contributor: United States. Constitutional Convention - Elliot, Jonathan - Madison, James
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Also known as Elliot's debates 7 Mr. WILLIE JONES. Mr. President, my reasons for proposing an immediate decision were, that I was prepared to give my vote, and believed that others were equally prepared as myself. If…- Contributor: United States. Constitutional Convention - Elliot, Jonathan - Madison, James
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Also known as Elliot's debates 8 honor yesterday of proposing the mode which I thought most eligible for our proceeding. I wish the subject to be fairly, coolly, and candidly discussed, that we may not go away…- Contributor: United States. Constitutional Convention - Elliot, Jonathan - Madison, James
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Also known as Elliot's debates 9 Mr. CALDWELL. Mr. Chairman, those maxims which I conceive to be the fundamental principles of every safe and free government, are—1st. A government is a compact between the rulers and the…- Contributor: United States. Constitutional Convention - Elliot, Jonathan - Madison, James
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Also known as Elliot's debates 10 any others, which should be thought better, should be substituted in their place. Mr. MACLAINE. Mr. Chairman, the gentleman has taken his principles from sources which cannot hold here. In England,…- Contributor: United States. Constitutional Convention - Elliot, Jonathan - Madison, James
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Also known as Elliot's debates 11 it can be altered without the consent of both parties? Those who govern, unless they grossly abuse their trust, (which is held au implied violation of the compact, and therefore a…- Contributor: United States. Constitutional Convention - Elliot, Jonathan - Madison, James
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Also known as Elliot's debates 12 Mr. SPENCER. I conceive that it will retard the business to accede to the proposal of the learned gentleman. The observation which has been made in its behalf does not apply…- Contributor: United States. Constitutional Convention - Elliot, Jonathan - Madison, James
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Also known as Elliot's debates 13 Mr. LENOIR approved of the principles, but disapproved of being bound by any rules. Mr. MACLAINE was of the same opinion as to the impropriety of being bound. Mr. JAMES GALLOWAY…- Contributor: United States. Constitutional Convention - Elliot, Jonathan - Madison, James
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Also known as Elliot's debates 14 it than myself. But I am still by no means confident that I am right. I have scarcely ever conversed on the subject with any man of understanding, who has not…- Contributor: United States. Constitutional Convention - Elliot, Jonathan - Madison, James
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Also known as Elliot's debates 15 for the expense which may be incurred, when the community is so distressed; but this is a trivial consideration compared to the consequences of a rash proceeding upon this important question.…- Contributor: United States. Constitutional Convention - Elliot, Jonathan - Madison, James
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Also known as Elliot's debates 16 the representatives of the legislatures of the different states? In my opinion, they had no power, from the people at large, to use their name, or to act for them. They…- Contributor: United States. Constitutional Convention - Elliot, Jonathan - Madison, James
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Also known as Elliot's debates 17 of the most extensive powers, yet they could not put one of them into execution. What have the Convention done that can merit this species of censure? They have only recommended…- Contributor: United States. Constitutional Convention - Elliot, Jonathan - Madison, James
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Also known as Elliot's debates 18 have ensued! It is a very moderate presumption, that what has once happened may happen again. The next important consideration, which is involved in the external powers of the Union are…- Contributor: United States. Constitutional Convention - Elliot, Jonathan - Madison, James
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Also known as Elliot's debates 19 our view a spectacle of public poverty and private wretchedness! While this is a true representation of our situation, can our general government recur to the ordinary expedient of loans? During…- Contributor: United States. Constitutional Convention - Elliot, Jonathan - Madison, James
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Also known as Elliot's debates 20 The encroachments of some states on the rights of others, and of all on those of the Confederacy, are incontestable proofs of the weakness and imperfection of that system. Maryland lately…- Contributor: United States. Constitutional Convention - Elliot, Jonathan - Madison, James
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Also known as Elliot's debates 21 the necessity of a different organization. In order to form some balance, the departments of government were separated, and as a necessary check, the legislative body was composed of two branches…- Contributor: United States. Constitutional Convention - Elliot, Jonathan - Madison, James
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Also known as Elliot's debates 22 be executed but by fire or by the sword—by military force, and not by the intervention of the civil magistrate. Every one who is acquainted with the relative situation of the…- Contributor: United States. Constitutional Convention - Elliot, Jonathan - Madison, James
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Also known as Elliot's debates 23 discordant and clashing interests. Mutual concessions were necessary to come to any concurrence. A plan that would promote the exclusive interests of a few states would be injurious to others. Had…- Contributor: United States. Constitutional Convention - Elliot, Jonathan - Madison, James
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Also known as Elliot's debates 24 assumed power. We, the people , is surely an assumed power. Have they said, We, the delegates of the people? It seems to me that, when they met in Convention, they…- Contributor: United States. Constitutional Convention - Elliot, Jonathan - Madison, James
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Also known as Elliot's debates 25 If the people approve of it, it becomes their act. Is not this merely a dispute about words, without any meaning whatever? Suppose any gentleman of this Convention had drawn up…- Contributor: United States. Constitutional Convention - Elliot, Jonathan - Madison, James
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Also known as Elliot's debates 26 our own hands to do with it as we think proper. I hope gentlemen will permit us to proceed. The clerk then read the 1st section of the l st article.…- Contributor: United States. Constitutional Convention - Elliot, Jonathan - Madison, James
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Also known as Elliot's debates 27 either lose a vote if he was not permitted to vote on every occasion, or if he was, he might, in some instances, have two votes—that the President was already possessed…- Contributor: United States. Constitutional Convention - Elliot, Jonathan - Madison, James
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Also known as Elliot's debates 28 —that treaties were the supreme law of the land in all countries, for the most obvious reasons—that laws, or legislative acts, operated upon individuals, but that treaties acted upon states—that, unless…- Contributor: United States. Constitutional Convention - Elliot, Jonathan - Madison, James
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- The debates in the several state conventions on the adoption of the federal Constitution, as recommended by the general convention at Philadelphia, in 1787. Together with the journal of the Federal convention, Luther Martin's letter, Yate's minutes, Congressional opinions, Virginia and Kentucky resolutions of '98-'99, and other illustrations of the Constitution
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- Also known as Elliot's debates
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- Elliot, Jonathan, 1784-1846, ed
- Madison, James, 1751-1836
- United States. Constitutional Convention (1787)
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- Philadelphia, J.B. Lippincott & co.; Washington, Taylor & Maury, 1836-59.
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- - United States.--Constitution
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- - Imprint varies: v. 1-2, 1859; v. 3-4, Washington, Printed for the editor, 1836; v. 5, 1845.
- - Vol. 5 has title: Debates on the adoption of the federal Constitution, in the convention held at Philadelphia, in 1787; with a diary of the debates of the Congress of the Confederation; as reported by James Madison ... Rev. and newly arranged by Jonathan Elliot ... Supplementary to Elliot's Debates ... 1845.
- - Wilson copy : Vol. 5 inscribed, A. W. Hazen, 1885.
- - Note on catalogue card: Library has vol. 5. Not sure if "Library" is all of LC or only Wilson Collection. LAC tnb 2021-12-22.
- - LAC tnb 2021-12-22 update (2 cards)
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